RSDI and SSI Income (Archive)

The Social Security Administration (SSA) administers and funds two programs which provide income. Each program has its own purpose and eligibility requirements. The two types are:

l  Retirement Survivors Disability Insurance (RSDI).

l  Supplemental Security Insurance (SSI).

Whether to exclude or count income from these programs varies by health care program and the client’s living situation. This section explains program rules.

See Social Security Administration Benefits for more detailed information on these programs or the definitions listed in this section for a general overview of each program.

For information on SSI and RSDI for a person using a Long-Term Care (LTC) budget, please see MA Payment of Long-Term Care (LTC) Services.

Definitions.

Gross RSDI Benefits.

SSI – MinnesotaCare.

RSDI – MinnesotaCare.

SSI – MA/GAMC.

Suspended SSI Benefits – MA/GAMC.

RSDI – MA/GAMC.

Related Topics.

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Definitions

Retirement, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (RSDI).

RSDI is a program operated by the Social Security Administration that provides a monthly income to retired people, survivors or dependents of insured people, and people with disabilities based on payroll contributions made via Social Security taxes.

Supplemental Security Income (SSI).

SSI is a federal supplemental income program funded by general tax revenues (not Social Security taxes). It provides monthly cash payments to aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income, to help them meet basic needs for food, clothing, and shelter.

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Gross RSDI Benefits

For all programs, when determining whether to count or exclude an RSDI payment, the amount to consider is the gross amount of the RSDI benefit before the Part B payment is deducted.

Example:

Mildred is retired and receives an RSDI check for $683. The Medicare Part B premium amount is deducted prior to Mildred receiving her check.

Action:

Count the amount of the RSDI check and the amount of the Medicare Part B premium, which is the amount to which she is entitled before deductions, as her gross RSDI.

For more information on determining the gross amount of RSDI see Social Security Administration Benefits.

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SSI - MinnesotaCare

Count the gross amount of SSI payments as unearned income to the household.

Example:

Lester receives SSI and his wife, Lavidia has earned income.

Action:

Count Lester’s SSI as unearned income and Lavidia’s earned income in the household income total.

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RSDI – MinnesotaCare

Count the gross amount of RSDI payments as unearned income to the household.

Reminder:  Count the gross amount prior to Medicare premium deductions.

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SSI - MA/GAMC

Exclude the following for the SSI recipient:

Note:  1619(a) and 1619(b) recipients are considered SSI recipients who are automatically eligible without an income determination.

l  The SSI benefit.

Example:

Keisha applies for MA. Her only income is SSI.

Action:

Exclude Keisha’s SSI income.

l  All other income considered by SSA in determining SSI eligibility and benefit amount.

Exception:  Do not exclude VA Aid and Attendance benefits, and VA unusual medical expense payments.

Example:

Bob is disabled and receives $470/month SSI. His wife Agnes works part time. Agnes' income and assets were considered by SSA in determining Bob's SSI benefit. Bob is not eligible for Medicare. Agnes is not elderly, disabled, or blind. They apply for health care coverage.

Action:

Exclude Bob's SSI benefit and Agnes' income to determine MA eligibility for Bob because her income was used to determine Bob’s SSI benefit amount.

l  Income the SSI program excludes.

Example:

Marcus receives SSI and is an MA enrollee. He reports receiving a one-time VA payment. SSA considers this VA payment to be excluded for SSI.

Action:

Exclude the VA payment for MA.

Exclude the SSI payment only for the SSI recipient’s spouse and/or non-emancipated children under 21 living with the recipient. Count all other income of the SSI recipient unless it is excluded for MA.

Example:

Herman and Helen, a married couple, apply for MA and GAMC. Herman is disabled and receives RSDI and SSI. Helen is employed part time and her earnings are considered in determining Herman's SSI eligibility.

Action:

Exclude Herman's SSI, RSDI, and Helen's earnings in determining his eligibility. Exclude Herman's SSI but count his RSDI and Helen's earnings in determining her eligibility.

Example:

Andrew applies for MA for himself and his seven-year old daughter Allana. Andrew is disabled and receives RSDI and SSI. His daughter receives dependent RSDI benefits.

Action:

For Andrew’s eligibility, exclude Andrew's SSI and RSDI. For Allana’s eligibility exclude Andrew's SSI, and count both RSDI payments.

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Suspended SSI Benefits - MA/GAMC

If SSI benefits are suspended for reasons other than lack of disability:

l  Consider the SSI recipient’s disability continued for MA.

l  Do not exclude other income received during the month(s) of suspension even if it is normally considered in determining the SSI payment.

Note:  A recoupment reducing SSI benefits to zero is not considered a suspension. Continue to exclude all other income considered by SSA in determining SSI eligibility and benefit amount before recoupment.

Example:

Gary applies for MA in February. Gary receives SSI and is employed part time. Gary receives $150 monthly earned income. His SSI benefits are suspended for three months beginning in February. His SSI benefits begin again in May but he receives $0 due to a recoupment.

Action:

Count his earned income in determining his eligibility for February, March, and April. Begin excluding the earnings again in May, the month SSI payments resume, even though he receives $0 due to the recoupment.

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RSDI - MA/GAMC

Unless all or part of the RSDI benefit is excluded or disregarded, count the gross RSDI amount as unearned income.

Presume the payment is available to the client unless he or she can demonstrate it is not available. See Availability of Income. Count the gross RSDI when a representative payee receives the payment.

Note:  If a representative payee is not making the RSDI available to the client, see Social Security Administration Benefits for steps on contacting SSA.

l  Exclude RSDI benefits received by or on behalf of children under age 18 who receive MA under the TEFRA option or receive services through the CAC, CADI, TBI or DD waivers.

l  Disregard all or part of the RSDI benefit when applicable under the following provisions:

n  Disabled Adult Child Disregard.

n  Disabled Widow and Widower's Disregard.

n  Pickle Disregard.

n  Plan to Achieve Self-Support (PASS).

n  RSDI Cost of Living (COLA) Disregard.

n  Widow and Widower's Disregard.

Related Topics

Overpayments and Withholdings.

MA Payment of Long-Term Care (LTC) Services.

Social Security Administration Benefits.

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