Pickle Disregard (Archive)

The Pickle Disregard is only available to MA Method B and the Medicare Savings Programs. Clients who qualify for the Pickle Disregard are treated like SSI recipients for purposes of determining MA eligibility. They will not have a spenddown.

Follow the steps to determine if the client qualifies to use the Pickle Disregard.

Step 1 - Conditions for Use.

Step 2 - Pickle Threshold Date.

Step 3 - Determining Threshold Date RSDI Amount.

Step 4 - Determine the Pickle Disregard Amount.

Step 5 - Qualification for Pickle Disregard.

Applying the Pickle Disregard.

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Step 1- Conditions for Use

Clients must meet all of the following conditions to determine if the Pickle Disregard can be used:

l  Currently receive or be entitled to receive RSDI benefits.

Remember:  Clients may be entitled to but not actually receive RSDI benefits for the month for which RSDI eligibility is approved. RSDI benefits are paid in the month following the month they cover.

l  Were eligible for 1619(b) or were eligible for and received SSI, MSA, 1619(a) benefits while concurrently entitled to or receiving RSDI in any month since April 1977.

Remember:  Entitlement to RSDI in a month in which the enrollee received SSI, MSA or 1619(a) or was eligible for 1619(b) qualifies the individual for the Pickle disregard.

Example:

John is active on MA and received SSI in June. Effective June 1, John became entitled to RSDI benefits. He received his first RSDI check in July for June. Because John was entitled to RSDI on June 1, SSA determines that John's RSDI income is over the SSI income standard and he loses SSI benefits beginning July 1.

Action:

John has met the conditions for the Pickle Disregard because he was entitled to RSDI benefits in June while receiving SSI.

l  Lost eligibility for SSI, MSA, 1619(a) or 1619(b) for any reason.

People who meet the conditions are often referred to as ”potential pickles.” If they meet the conditions in Step 1 the next step is to determine the Pickle Threshold Date (Step 2).

It is important to note in case notes if a client meets the conditions and is a ”potential pickle.” It is helpful to other workers who work on the case in the future.

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Step 2 - Pickle Threshold Date

The second step to determine if a client qualifies to use the Pickle Disregard is to determine the Pickle threshold date.

The Pickle threshold date is the more recent of the following two dates:

l  July 1, 1982.

l  The last month the client was eligible for and received at least one of the following benefits concurrently with receipt of RSDI benefits or entitlement to RSDI benefits:

n  1619(b).

n  MSA.

n  1619(a).

n  SSI benefits.

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Step 3 - Determining Threshold Date RSDI Amount

The next step, after determining the Pickle threshold date, is to determine the amount of the RSDI benefit the client received on the threshold date.

Note:  If the client is also having RSDI deemed from another household member (spouse or parent), determine the threshold RSDI amount, based on the client’s threshold date, for the deemer’s RSDI. Do not allow the Pickle disregard when determining the parent's or spouse's eligibility unless they also meet the Pickle eligibility conditions.

To determine the threshold RSDI amount, subtract the previous cost of living adjustments (COLA) the client received back to the threshold date.

MAXIS can do this calculation for you. You can find the COLA amounts on the chart found in Pickle Disregard COLA Chart.

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Step 4 - Determine the Pickle Disregard Amount

To determine the amount of the Pickle Disregard, subtract the threshold RSDI amount calculated in Step 3 from the client’s current RSDI amount.

Note:  If the client’s spouse or parent has RSDI and a threshold RSDI amount was determined for their RSDI in Step 3, be sure to determine the difference between their current RSDI and their threshold RSDI amount. Add the difference to the client’s Pickle Disregard to have a total Pickle Disregard.

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Step 5 - Qualification for Pickle Disregard

The fifth step in the Pickle process is to determine if the client meets the income requirement to qualify to be considered as if they are an SSI recipient and be eligible for MA without a spenddown.

To qualify as an SSI recipient, for Pickle Disregard purposes, complete the following steps:

a. Determine the client’s current countable income. Be sure to deem income as appropriate and subtract all earned and unearned disregards, including the Pickle Disregard amount.

b. Compare the countable income to the SSI federal benefit rate (FBR).

Note:  To determine the appropriate SSI FBR, follow the for SSI program rules.

i.  If the income is less than the SSI FBR the client is qualified to use the Pickle Disregard and will not have a spenddown.

ii. If the income is higher than the SSI FBR, continue to Step c.

c. Compare the countable income to the current MSA standard that would apply if the client applied for MSA. See the DHS Combined Manual for MSA standards.

Note:  To determine the appropriate MSA standard, follow the for MSA program rules.

i.  If the income is less than the MSA standard the client is qualified to use the Pickle Disregard and will not have a spenddown.

ii. If the income is greater than that MSA standard the client is not eligible for the Pickle Disregard, but does remain a ”potential pickle.”

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Applying the Pickle Disregard

Apply the Pickle Disregard amount calculated in Step 4 to the client’s income calculation.

Remember:  Use current RSDI amounts in the income calculation for eligibility.

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